alt.education

On Nov 9, 11:09 am, Pastor Dave wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:43:35 -0800, Jerry Kraus
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> >On Nov 8, 7:56 pm, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
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> >> Lenin, in Russia a hundred years ago, told his party to declare war
> >> (privately) on religion. Well, we see this in contemporary American
> >> society. After years of telling people that they simply didn't want
> >> religion being forced upon kids by teachers, we now see their true
> >> agenda. In Illinois, they passed a law requiring a moment of silence
> >> before the instructional day for personal reflection...get
> >> that...reflection, not explicitly prayer. Tell me the teacher that
> >> wouldn't LOVE a minute of silence in their classroom. However,
> >> liberals have objected to even this...allowing kids a minute of
> >> unstructured time in which they MAY find the time to pray...
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> >> /tm/articles/2007/11/08/06apnillinois_w...
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> >> ...and a school district has decided to blatently defy their state
> >> government rather than risk that a child may pray on their own
> >> volition, silently, without influence of anyone around them. In
> >> short, they (liberals) are not only opposed to religious influence on
> >> the classroom but anyone that happens to be religious there, denying
> >> the FREE EXERCISE of children to pray, silently, on their own.
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> >> Kenneth Clifton
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> >It's a school, you're there to learn, not to pray. You can pray in
> >Church, or anywhere else you like.
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> So in other words, you seek to limit where people
> can pray. Have you heard of the 1st Amendment?
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> And please don't bother telling me about the
> "separation of church and state". That is not
> found in the Constitution!
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> Furthermore, we have free speech! And no one can
> tell you that you cannot pray somewhere and no,
> you don't get to lock Christians up in one building,
> when they want to pray!
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> But hey, let's take note that you would have taken
> the side of atheists, if they wanted to run around
> and claim there is no God!
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> >Do your preachers permit people to step up to
> >the pulpit and teach evolution, or other religions?
> >I don't think so!
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> Sorry Charlie, but that doesn't fly! The church is
> a private building. The PUBLIC school is not and
> is paid for by our tax dollars! Our churches are not
> paid for by YOU!
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> Now if you want to have a meeting, even on school
> property (which is public property) and pray to the
> "god of uki buki", then that is your choice as well!
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> But let us note that we don't see people like you
> complaining when Wiccans, for example, want to
> have meetings in schools! Nay, rather, you and
> your ilk SUPPORT IT, which makes YOU HYPOCRITES!!!
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> >You want to take over all aspects of society
> >and outlaw any other points of view.
> >You are a fascist.
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> You are full of crap, plain and simple! You think that
> throwing around insults and attacking people means
> that you have given some brilliant political and legal
> argument! It doesn't! It only shows your bias!
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As long as nothing is done on school property inconsistent with the
separation of church and state, you have no problems. What is your
problem with the separation of church and state?